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Steve Sudbeck
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Re: Build timeframe

Post by Steve Sudbeck » Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:14 am

Jeanne, the reason you are being demeaned and attacked is because you touched a nerve; the nerve that you touched is called the truth. Now why the attack dogs on this forum get so upset over a posting of the truth is much more appropriate to discuss on a psychology forum; their shadowed courage simply comes from a keyboard.
Anyway, I have learned that there is a protective cult and culture surrounding this group. On the surface is the past, the fantasy, the nostalgia and the legend; underneath there is business and personal fatigue and fear of change. The fatigue and fear manifest themselves as clandestine group think - simply put, things are slowly changing (not necessarily for the best) and some do not like what is seen as coming down the road - so the end result of all of that fatigue and fear is that you get attacked for touching that very exposed and sensitive nerve. In our new political world, when one group does not like the truth, the messenger gets attacked, intimidated and cancelled.

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by jackrabbit » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:03 pm

Gosh, what a load of bullshit........

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by Kirk » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:19 pm

Steve Sudbeck,
I'm not real sure what all of that has to do with the issue at hand. The individual had a problem with my secretary no one else's, which
means it's my business and no one else's. There was absolutely nothing anyone on here could do to remedy the problem, which includes speaking out or private messaging!! Since then, myself and the individual have been in contact again, and everything is fine as far as I know. We are only about 20 miles apart.

Thanks for your concern, and I hope everyone on here has a Merry Christmas and a good New Year.

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by bobw » Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:04 pm

Well said Kirk and I hope with all my abilities that all the Bryan's and Shiloh employees have a wonderful Christmas and happy new year. ..bobw

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by SFogler » Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:34 pm

I just got around to reading this thread.
Kirk and all at Shiloh - Merry Christmas!!! I couldn't be happier with the Shilohs I have ordered from you or with the incredibly good service I have personally encountered from whoever answers the phone there. I am especially thankful that you are still willing to make these beautiful rifles in spite of regulatory interruptions, COVID-19 lock downs, labor shortages, bitching and complaining by pinheads, and the myriad other problems that the pandemic world has unleashed. In a time when we can't even buy a light bulb unless in comes off a boat from China, I am truly amazed you all can still put up with it all. I pray you have a happy enough New Year to continue. Thank you for handcrafting these beautiful MADE IN AMERICA rifles that so many of us enjoy and compete so successfully with. Yes we do protect you - you bet we do!

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by jackrabbit » Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:56 pm

Amen Steve! Thanks for posting that!

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by trapper » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:19 pm


* If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.

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Re: Build timeframe

Post by fosjam » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:45 am

I have been very impressed with the folks at Shiloh. I've had a few builds, one in progress and two from Goodman. I've got three more I've bought secondhand. I've never been treated with anything but respect and professionalism from the folks at Shiloh. I'll also say that when they don't have an answer (because they're too busy), forcing the issue and expecting them to drop what they're doing and get you an answer will only further the delays for everyone. I've been in their shop multiple times and between the phone calls, walk in customers, and other tasks, all for whoever is just available at the time, the best answer is to just be patient and enjoy the best rifle made on either side of the Mississippi whenever it is you get it.

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