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OOPS,
I made a mistake on the above posting as far as rate of fire. The Yamato fired 1 round every 45 seconds ( 1 per min. ) the New Jersey 1 round every 30 seconds ( 2 per min. ) and the Bismark 1 round every 20 seconds ( 3 rounds per min. ) When we were on the line we usually didn't fire any faster than 40 seconds between shots because of safety and we weren't usually under attack. And as far as a 9 gun broadside went that was usually done for the press, in my 2 1/2 years aboard we only shot 3 of those and let me tell you nothing can describe the awesome power of that.

Frank

My long distance provider is Sharps.

IIRC, Shiloh voids their warranty if you use smokeless loads in their rifles - unless they are factory loads.

[quote="George Babits"]smokless loads for the 50-140 - - - you gottabe crazy!! Give me the guys name so I can take out a million dollar life insurance policy on him. That case is so big and the bullet so far away from the powde rcharge that the bullet is nothing but an obstruction.
George[/quote]

Todd,
Maybe George is wrong because after all the years I've been doing this and I'm still standing his premiums would've been wasted. 5744 was designed just for these large cases.

Frank

My long distance provider is Sharps.

Yup 5744 did a fine job in these.

By all means continue to use 5744 in a 50-120. Just have the grace to warn people around you.

Will do. I don't have a .50-120 I have a .50-140, and if you put more 5744 than the manufacture recommends bad things can happen. Knowledge is the key.

Just sayin

These guns were all in use in the days of Black Powder. They were designed for Black Powder and that is ALL my rifles have ever seen and all they will ever see! Never had one separate in all the years I have been shooting them.

Never had one separate on me in all the years ( 27yrs. ) I've been shooting them. I've NEVER advocated anyone shooting smokeless, I've only related my experiences with said white powder, I'd like to say thank you for those who have disagreed with me in a polite manner that is what this forum should be about. As stated before " knowledge is the key ", if you do something stupid your results will reflect that.

Frank

My long distance provider is Sharps.

Yeah, good to be back where we can agree to disagree and no one is getting testy about it. That last spate was a little over the top.

[quote="battleship gunner"]I'd like to say thank you for those who have disagreed with me in a polite manner that is what this forum should be about. As stated before " knowledge is the key ", if you do something stupid your results will reflect that.[/quote]

Can't imagine why any one would pay what a Shiloh costs to shoot smokeless in it. No challenge or point to it. Advise the young shooters to read one of the books on how to load BP and do it right. We as the older shooters have a responsibility to teach the younger ones correctly and lead them to enjoy this type of shooting.

I've often wondered the same thing. There is a plethora of modern smokeless cartridges out there designed for the purpose. However, people will do what they want whether others agree or not. It's called freedom of choice and so long as it doesn't interfere with the enjoyment of others, they have the right.
Whenever I see a BPCR being used and there is no BP "BOOM!" and cloud of white smoke, I'm always disappointed. Somehow it just doesn't seem right.

The fact remains that when a BPCR comes apart, the powder is most often smokeless. Hard to imagine a BP load generating enough pressure to blow up a safe firearm.