Shiloh Rifle Forums

ian45662 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:45 am Baco has the 371345 in stock. Maybe I should just go ahead and grab it.

You can borrow mine with the 38cal expander die if you wish. Cast up a couple of hundred to see how it goes before you decide.

I believe it was a 35-30 cartridge.

HG

Ian wrote: "save a little bit of powder and lead from time to time and still have a rifle that is competitive."

Websters Dictionary Competitive: having a strong desire to compete or to succeed

Lucky you Ian, you can do either, however, it is highly questionable if a 38-50 will help you do both.

Qualifer: It is the shooter and their ability that is competitive. The rifle is simply a tool in the hands of the individual rifleman.

This isn't Golf, so there are no handicaps.

desert deuce wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:26 pm Ian wrote: "save a little bit of powder and lead from time to time and still have a rifle that is competitive."

Websters Dictionary Competitive: having a strong desire to compete or to succeed

Lucky you Ian, you can do either, however, it is highly questionable if a 38-50 will help you do both.

Qualifer: It is the shooter and their ability that is competitive. The rifle is simply a tool in the hands of the individual rifleman.

This isn't Golf, so there are no handicaps.

If I can save some lead and powder while continuing to shoot master scores like I do with my 45-70s then I will consider that competitive while skimping on a few materials. I think it’s possible.

SSShooter wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:56 pm

ian45662 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:45 am Baco has the 371345 in stock. Maybe I should just go ahead and grab it.

You can borrow mine with the 38cal expander die if you wish. Cast up a couple of hundred to see how it goes before you decide.

I may take you up on that. Thanks. I ordered the reamer today and it will only take 8 weeks to make. May have this rifle going a little sooner than I thought.

What barrel are you going to use?

Coltsmoke wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:48 pm What barrel are you going to use?

12 twist greenmountain

trouble with dan t reamers is that they had 45 degree transitions.
having changed one to 7 degrees, i now would even go to 4 degrees.
bruce.

Me personally I think I am rather fond of the 45 degree transition. My highwall and cpa both have 12.5 degree right from the case mouth into the rifling and that seems to work well also. I have a 45-70 DanT reamer that I have not used yet but my Shiloh has a 45 degree and it has consistently shot better groups off the bench than my other two rifles.

until you get a paper or lead ring.
then things can get scheisterhousen.
i often suspect part of the success of the 45/70 is due to the lower angle, approx 12 degree, transition.
45 degrees works with jacketed bullets because they do not bump up, but the lower angle works better with black and lead.
if you are breech seating, it does not matter, as the bullet base is in front of the transition.
if all else fails, you can get a throating reamer to modify the transition.
bruce.

ian,Glenn,
Nothing wrong with GM barrels, but
If you want to try the 371360E, 360 grain bullet I believe you are better off with a 10 twist barrel.
My 10 twist shoots the 371345E 345 gr bullet AND the 371360E 360 well. But, So far, in my 10 twist Douglas,
the lighter , shorter 345gr bullet has actually turned in smaller groups than the 360gr
beltfed/arnie

Thanks. That’s good to know. I have not ordered a barrel yet. I’ll jump on their website and see what’s going on

I think most here are encouraging you to pursue your quest and report back to us. I think you can use less lead, less powder and still shoot master scores. Go for it Ian....people that hoo hawed David Tubb for shooting a 6mm Remington in Highpower silhouette wished now they would have followed his lead. Now a 6MM bullet is all the rage in Highpower where just a few years ago the gun HAD to be a 30 cal or you'd ring rams. That BS just wasn't so...and Tubb shoots baboons at about a mile these days..with a 6mm.

Good luck sir...keep us informed.

Powderburnt,
Yes, you did absolutely the right thing on diameters to suit you to fit your GM barrel with the 55Y paper.
My only suggestion was to shorten the bullet to 1.4" for your 12 twist barrel.
So happens that the diameters chosen for the BACO catalog bullets I mentioned were designed around my Douglas and a friend's Ron Smith barrel and 55W paper makes for a great fit. I have always mentioned re. the BACO designs that they will adjust the diameters to suit the user's desire for his or her barrel's chamber FF case I.D.s and groove and land dimensions and paper.
beltfed/arnie

beltfed wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:21 pm ian,Glenn,
Nothing wrong with GM barrels, but
If you want to try the 371360E, 360 grain bullet I believe you are better off with a 10 twist barrel.
My 10 twist shoots the 371345E 345 gr bullet AND the 371360E 360 well. But, So far, in my 10 twist Douglas,
the lighter , shorter 345gr bullet has actually turned in smaller groups than the 360gr
beltfed/arnie

. When you ordered your 10 twist did you get it as a blank or did you have them profile it? What outside diameter and length do I need in order to make weight for sillywets?