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Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:18 pm
by High Desert Hunter
Probably a stupid question, but I really want to try and cast, patch, and shoot bullets from my Shiloh 45 2.1". It has a 34" barrel, and a standard chamber. Wondering how long of a bullet I can shoot, what diameter (.445 or .446), and whether a single diameter or dual? As I didn't special order this rifle, but purchased it from inventory in the days when they once in a while had rifles in stock, I am guessing it has a 1:18 twist. Just looking to try another route on the journey to the Quigley Shoot. I have talked about this for a few years now, and neither I, nor my eyes are getting any younger.
Dave
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:31 pm
by Don McDowell
1.42 is about as long in either dual diameter or straight sided that you can count on day in and day out in an 18 twist 45-70.
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:37 pm
by High Desert Hunter
Thank you Don!
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:40 pm
by Don McDowell
You're welcome.
I like the 525446 M for a straight sided bullet, cast 16-1 and wrapped in either seth cole cole 55y or 55w depending on the rifles choice.
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:50 pm
by High Desert Hunter
That must be a good bullet, second recommendation today! BACO is going to get more of my business.
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:10 pm
by Don McDowell
My 45-90’s like it too
BACO moulds are top notch
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:32 am
by 77 sharps
What year did they get rid of the free bored chambers?
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:50 am
by Kenny Wasserburger
1991
Or there about.
Absolutely a train wreck for accuracy.
KW
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:19 am
by bpcr shooter
whats your bore and fired case dia?
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:51 am
by High Desert Hunter
Bore is .4581 at the muzzle, I will have to measure some fired cases when I get home.
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:58 am
by Kenny Wasserburger
That’s groove not bore.
Kenny
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:27 pm
by High Desert Hunter
You're absolutely correct! Thinking in terms of GG bullets. I will measure bore when I return home.
Dave
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:56 pm
by High Desert Hunter
Looks like my bore diameter is .450.
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:28 pm
by High Desert Hunter
Fired case is .480 at the case mouth.
Re: Paper Patch Bullets
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:45 pm
by 77 sharps
I think he’s asking for the inside diameter of the case mouth. The .446 bullet patched with the 55W will fit a FL sized case or you can use a DD bullet with the base dimensioned to fit the fire formed case mouth and avoid working your brass so you need to know the ID diameter of your cases.