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My BPCR shooting buddy recently decided to check the bore of his Shiloh Sharps for carbon buildup. His results suggested I should do the same with my Shiloh Sharps. He commented that there was absolutely no leading, but when he used Burch’s Bore Shine & waited 5 or so minutes & ran another patch it comes out brown. His research on bore carbon indicated it will come out brown on white patches. His scores have been getting better but didn’t want to get behind the 8 ball with carbon buildup. The next day he spent 30 minutes scrubbing the bore with Kroil & JB Bore Paste. After cleaning the patches came out very light brownish yellow.

So I decided to do the same. I’ve put about 3,000 rounds through my .40-65 Sharps to date & had never seriously checked for carbon. Having some Bore Tech Carbon Remover available I tackled the Sharps bore today. After removing the oil with some patches with solvent a couple of patches with Bore Tech came out a light brown with a few darker streaks. A few more patches with Bore Tech, waiting several minutes between patches, were progressively less to very light brown & no streaks. So then I scrubbed the bore with several patches of JB Bore Paste & followed up with solvent patches to clean out the JB. Subsequently a couple of tight turpentine patches which came out white. I then wetted the bore with Bore Tech & let it soak for 15 minutes. Subsequent patches of Bore Tech & solvent patches all came out completely white. So apparently there was some carbon but not much, & only one tiny sliver of lead.

Those of you that have not checked you bores for carbon buildup might consider doing so.

Wayne

I have been saying this for years, saw Doc Lay have major issues with carbon fouling in Phoenix once.

Course I been told I was full of BS, water is all you need.

Now that is BS, water will not touch carbon.


Kenny Wasserburger

So which products are considered the best for carbon fouling? Right now, the solvents I've been using are M Pro 7, Hoppe's, or CLP. I had stopped using more aggressive products like Sweet's...

JonnyV wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:11 am So which products are considered the best for carbon fouling? Right now, the solvents I've been using are M Pro 7, Hoppe's, or CLP. I had stopped using more aggressive products like Sweet's...

Bore Tech Carbon Remover & Burch’s Bore Shine are two good ones. Other top rated carbon cleaners include: Carbon-Off, Slip2000 Carbon Killer, Sea Foam SS14 Cleaner & Lube, or the carbon cleaners used to remove carbon from cooking pans or automotive engine parts.

Wayne

It's interesting this topic comes up at this time . I have a Shiloh 40-70 that is my favorite rifle . I've had a lot of problems with consistently over the years . It has had an extremely tight area in the breach , so tight that a patch couldn't be drawn out after pushing it through . I have always thought it was the barrel . I've tried keoil years ago to remove lead but it has caused more severe leading . I have been shooting paper patch with good results and cleaning with water & balistol. A couple weeks ago I got a new can of Kroil . I had completely cleaned the barrel , the patches came out white but decided to run a patch with kroil and it came out black jet black actually. So I brushed it with a kroil soacked brush and the nylon rod turned black . I cleaned it for bout an hr . And the tight spot is completely gone . The rifle now shoots awesome with both Gg's and pp's .

I've got plenty of Kroil but never thought about trying it on carbon. I'll have to check it out to see how well it works.

Wayne

I might pick some up on the way home and try it.

If you have some tough carbon buildup in front of the chamber JB Bore paste followed by Kroil will take it out without too much effort. Apparently it's a popular combination with lots of bench rest shooters. That's what let me to it. I only do it rarely, but it does the trick.

Chris.

I just ran across the following video. You can add CLR to the list of carbon cleaners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xte_pf3ZhsA

Wayne

Montana extreme cowboy blend

Montana Cowboy blend inbound with one of their cleaning rods too. Thanks!!

Get a bottle of the it bore oil too

Yes, it’s (Kroil and JB bore paste, and RemClean) been used in the benchrest circuit for years. Merrill Martin was the fella that introduced it in Precision Shooting magazine. It will NOT damage the bore, not at all. I still use it in my bench guns, and now I’ll run it through the throat area of my Shilohs. Kroil on a tight patch first. Again, and again. Then Kroil and JB bore paste, or Kroil and Remclean.
R

I basically asked this question two years ago when discovering that after cleaning with a water based cleaner, including M-pro7, I could always find more carbon in the bore if I ran an oil-based cleaner (Hoppes) through the bore and let it set for five to fifteen minutes. In short, after trying everything mentioned here, including biceps building exercises with that damed JB bore paste, with varying degrees of success, I came across Wipe-Out brand, Patch out. Cleaning routine now is Windex with vinegar diluted 50/50 with water. Four to five patches of that produces a white patch. One dry patch, and then the Patch-Out. Another 3-5 patches at five minute intervals, and I'm done. No more carbon.

I’ll give this a try!
Robert