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Re: Shared experience
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:09 am
by ian45662
I am going it to sometime. I did try it in my cpa once with its stainless steel barrel and seemed to do just fine.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:12 am
by ian45662
Woody wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:38 am
As a former blow tuber, I found that even in the hot dry West, a blow tube was more than enough to shoot master scores in silhouette. However, when laying in the sun, at a target rifle match wiping was needed after the first distance because of the additional heat from the sun.
Ian, as you recall, last month at Friendship, the match winner both days, was a relatively new shooter, shooting a 45-70 greaser. He used a blow tube and shot dirty for the entire match. He did not clean between relays and almost cleaned the laydowns both days.
I have been wiping with the BACO wipers for the last two years and am satisfied that they are conducive to accurate shooting with greasers. Lately I have used a MPRO7 wiper followed by a NAPA Cutting Oil damp patch and a chamber swab. The swab seems to lessen the stretching of cases caused by a wet chamber.
At the end of the day, the amount of lead I find is negligible using either method.
Woody
PS: Look out. The doctor has cleared me to shoot this month at Friendship. I've loaded the 45-90 with open sights.
Unfortunately I won’t be able to shoot both days at friendship. I am hoping to get out there Sunday though. I am eager to try my 38-50 with the updated 3F load. I’ll be rooting for you though.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:23 am
by desert deuce
Ahh, haah, you have been warned: "The doctor has cleared me to shoot this month at Friendship. I've loaded the 45-90 with open sights."
Everybody else may as well stay home.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:55 am
by desert deuce
Ian, here is some more jobbing your memory. From David Minshall's site.
Zack Taylor
Frankly Ian, you didn't worry me too much while watching your PP scores because I had a fairly good idea what would eventually happen as you wandered into the bigger long range target matches. Now that you have begun to embrace the grease groove bullet I am afraid those improvements you are enjoying will only get better which forces the rest of us to up our games. As an aside: I spent a bit over the past shooting season using SPG Tropical exclusively in the 40-65 Caliber. Fired 72 consecutive rounds without cleaning the bore at Raton last month and no leading or loss of accuracy noted. In fact, plinked 14 of 15 turkeys, last relay, last day. Worked as good or better than anything else I have tried, including some of my home lubes, in the bore. Held up well on the mat in the loading blocks, no problems, at a measured 125 F 17% humidity. Advertised to hold up at 145 F but even I have run for shade by then.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:40 pm
by ian45662
I do remember that. I just got home from a long range match at camp Atterbury. I will see if I Glenn might post the scores for me if I e mail them. It’s safe to say though that this match has pretty much put the nail in the coffin. It is going to be a long time before I patch another bullet. I did shoot the SPG tropic for the entire shoot which is the first time I shot it in a match. 50 scoring shots. I pulled just one tiny spec of lead and I really had to hunt for it with tight patches. I could have gotten away with just cleaning the BP fouling out between relays or maybe not even that. I used the bullet that Steve the Machine had turned me onto and I am very very happy that he did. That money bullet with the 3 reduced bands did very well for me and my Shiloh seems to like it a lot.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 am
by Aviator
Darn, helped the competition again!
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:54 am
by SSShooter
Scores from Atterbury. Top-3 were within 4 points (429, 427 & 425), including Ian's GG score (top cartridge rifle).
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:21 am
by SSShooter
A more readable pic of the scores.
Scores from Atterbury. Top-3 were within 4 points (429, 427 & 425), including Ian's GG score (top cartridge rifle).
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:03 am
by ian45662
Aviator wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 am
Darn, helped the competition again!
Yet again.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:47 am
by desert deuce
Aviator wrote: Darn, helped the competition again!
(PS- that's our job one.)
Yes, we did. And, it appears no one is more surprised than Ian.
Now, if we can just get he and Deana to a real match in February. Feit accompli !
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:57 am
by Kurt
Ian,
I wouldn't give up on the PP so fast.
I just got home from Alma MI. last night from the last match of the season. The attendance was lower than usual but the weather was great. Very good conditions with a bright sun shining, but that clear cut between the Rams and Turkeys things were going on as usual.
You're a lot better shooter than I am and the 359Gr DDPP that Arnie drew up for me for the .38-50 performed very well again for me as well as it did last month. Better last month than this month.
I managed to get 18 pigs, 14 turkeys but only 8 Rams. I just could not get a good sight picture looking through the gray blob that made the rams blend in with the grass beneath them. I also got 4 of the feather critters but only 2 counted that went down out of order as well as one ram
those chickens just dont stand still.
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Had one shooter ring a ram with a .45-70. very unusual at Alma.
I go in on the 19th to see if they can fix my eyes again so next season I will come to Friendship with my Grand Daughters and have fun with you guys.
Kurt
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:52 pm
by ian45662
Wow!! Ringing rams at alma is very unusual and especially with a 45. Deans and I have rang our fair share of rams this season but only at Friendship. We have been working on a hotter load with the Creedmoor bullets. 56 grains of 3F is pushing the 365 grain bullet 1340 ish FPS and it has good accuracy. I tested this load at friendship over Labor Day and purposely hit the rams in bad spots where they don’t want to go down and they all fell. The only one that didn’t fall with the new load is one that had half a bullet on the chest. I don’t know if I would say that I’m a better shooter. I just have younger eyes. That does help a bunch !!
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:38 pm
by gunlaker
Sometimes the weirdest things happen. My shooting partner rang a pig with a 45-70 this year, shooting a 540gr PJ Creedmoor. I'm not sure how it happened. I've also seen him spin a turkey 90 degrees without it falling down.
Chris.
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:51 pm
by John Bly
What goes around sometimes comes back to you. Ian sold me my trapdoor mold that I've shot well with so now the favor has been returned albeit by another shooter. Good shooting everybody!
Re: Shared experience
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:43 pm
by SSShooter
ian45662 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:52 pmRinging rams at alma is very unusual and especially with a 45.
Not that rare. I was shooting my 38-56 at Alma about 10yr ago. Load was something like 58gr of 2F with the 360gr BACo Money bullet and next to me was Ron Walters shooting a 545gr bullet in his 45-70. We fired at the same time and both center-punched our ram and they both just stood there. We decided we caught the same puff of wind from behind the rams. When we shot the next bank-of-5 we both knocked down the same ram we had just rang.