Bryan,
You have it right regarding NO cheek weld! I had a boulder that I used to take a few shots at a mile. Not a problem to get into the spotting scope & see the dust for hits & misses.
Incidently, if you turn the Soule base around so the staff is forward, a standard Pedersoli LR sight will just make it (.45-70 loaded with 80 grs. & NASA bullet). Prone is tough- more like laying in artillary! Sitting works better for me, but you just HAVE TO try a few shots offhand for the kicks & grins.
I used to only be about 400 miles from Kenny's place- probably 600+ now - got my heart racing thinking about it though!....Dammit Kenny! ......Dennis
This should shape up to be one hoot and hollar match for sure. Got Ray Newman's check the other day will be going down to get that half gallon of the Mark for the first prize.
Let us hope that the weather plays nice.
One guy at the local gun shop informed me that black powder wont shoot a mile so we are just wasting our time. This was just after I reminded the gun shop owner that we were going to shoot the mile end of this month. The same gent went on to say that it (BP) wont even reach 1000 yards. The owner of the shop explaned to the guy that I was a national Long range Champion with 3-4 gold medals all won at 1000 yards using black powder in a Sharps rifle. The guy left the shop shortly there after.
Ah its funny how some folks dont have a clue to ballistics or any idea of what long range shooting really is.
Any way you look at it its going to be alot of fun!
Kenny W.
The lunger
Member-Founder H'RASS
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kENNEY
I just made this post on another thread. Surprised to find it fits here also.
As you well know, there are only a small handfull of real experts in all phases of firearms and ballistics world wide. Did you ever notice that any time you walk into a gun shop or get into a discussion about firearms, you always meet up with one of them?
Jim
If Dans calculations are close I dont have enough elevation on my scope mounts.
1500 yards would be the max for that and I would be looking through the front of the muzzle.
Question for you Engineers
If I would use my Unilevel Inclinometer what degree would get me on the target using my .50 with a 729 grain bullet with a creedmoor type of ogive and a velocity of 1300 fps.
I don't have the BC for that bullet.
Kurt
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I might add.
My sight correction from 200 to 1000 yards is 72 points for that .50.
Kurt
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Well Brent I guess I could pick a rock
I would sure like to make that shoot. I have to make a trip back to Mt. and if things work out I would sure shosw up for that shoot.
Kurt
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I really think that if a person was to carefully read the below link, and did some judicious calculating, they could extrapolate the needed information.
Jim I seen that writing before it's interesting, to many under estimate the .45-70.
I was trying to remember when Kirk took the test for the maximum range for the Sharps down in New Mexico or some place.
I checked my scope with my Inclinometer and for the 1136 yard setting I have 2.5 degrees with a block spacing of 17" for my scope.
And the maximum I can get is 4 degrees but all I can see is barrel shadow
I do have some high scope bases that are .600 or .700 high that would make the elevation I need.
Kurt
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Kurt, one thing is for sure, whether you use a scope or iron sights, it will be a bear to shoulder. I still think hip shooting will be more practical but I'll shoot prone if the rest of you do the same.
bryan
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Well that would work Bryan
But I have something better I still have one of those sights you mount to the stock of a M-1 rifle for the anti Tank grenade launcher and hold the but stock on the ground and let er go
Kurt
The reason a dog has so many friends is because he wags his tail instead of his tongue.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"Winston Churchill
Jimbo called the other night he is bringing a 4 ft round center for the Mile Target. Still working out the size the outer will be, and I am still looking at spotting targets on the windage and perhaps one for elevation. I may buy a couple of sheets of insulation foam with the silver paper on one side for these? plus they work very well for range finders.
Kenny W.
The Lunger
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Not 'zactly sure about this but, if a 1,000 yard target has a 44" bull and the outer is 6' X 12' then correcting for 1760 yds would call for a 77" bull, and a 10-1/2' X 21' outer. You might want to tip it 8 deg off vertical so the bullet will strike perpendicular thereby maximizing the target surface area.
TL
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Timberlake, ah, hell, just put a John Deere tractor out there. They are easy to see, and should hold up well to bullet impact. Just put some good slime in the tires and you should be able to drive it home. What do you think Will the 40-65 get there? If I can find a good spotter, we are going to have to put this shoot on our "To-Do" List
Timberlake the original Creedmoor bull was only 36 inches, and 6x12 as you quoted the outer's size. The outer I have in mind will be at least 8 feet tall and at least 12 feet long lest thats the idea.
I had already considered the slanting back of the target, some what to make for a better target picture and ease of the bullet strikes being seen too.
That size of steel will require some planing! When it comes to assembley and the moving and setting.
Glad we have a big tractor with a farmhand on it!
The lunger
We'll raise up our Glasses against Evil Forces, Singing, Whiskey for my men, Beer for my horses.
- got my heart racing thinking about it though!....Dammit Kenny! ......Dennis
The owner of the shop explaned to the guy that I was a national Long range Champion with 3-4 gold medals all won at 1000 yards using black powder in a Sharps rifle. 
The guy left the shop shortly there after.
Just put some good slime in the tires and you should be able to drive it home. What do you think 